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Tuesday, October 17th

Greeny & Booger McFarland talked about the ALCS, the hit on Aaron Rodgers, Kaepernick & Nick Saban & Mike Leach at the podium. Plus, Stephen Jackson on the NBA season

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Of another year in the NBA no limits on this too far Tuesday we have bugger back it better than ever to talk about it all good morning go to McFarland was Bloomberg broke. Why don't far we're a little late getting in here this one because they spent a lot of time on one of our hair and I'm just what got us guessing there was India and. Oh I don't know man go first vote they didn't spin a lot of time when anything okay hope. Who does our make up their morning. Spent an enormous amount of time when your hair because she did your hair and the first thing you sit. What is the school boards a ship to rethink your Eric. Pull out more jail he set d'estaing and Ramirez if you read salon. Hit three people working on you so while we were late getting in the studio this more. Let the record show it's not jail about I mean what isn't there it's like up up Almonte is decree that no it's more like eight I cut paste actually is probably different. Is an enormous difference haven't have you ever seen geology hell is more of what does the same thing though it does it does actually nor near the same thing. To suggest those juju the same thing is to suggest that a hamburger and Turkey burger are the same thing it puts your hair in a spot where it should move I know but in this particular case what that what that what the pace does so nicely. Is it does it without giving it any sort of a wet look. And so it it it is it is meant for people who want it to look as though. They didn't spend any time or put any effort into their hair and yet it looks perfect was at the college equipment that they are that yes I believe actually it is that she does use that is correct. So we used the pace amateur but to pull mod but it's it's something like that. As opposed to a jail and I just think it's important that we make sure that we clarify that because. They're grooming is significant here which are hammocks assignment or wearing another I feel that it is very late getting heavier this morning and I'm not a 100% sure 100 still feeling like I'm getting myself organized you're allowed to do shorts. I don't know we're trying to get together we got ribs we got all kinds of stuff working out there we're gonna have a touch what are a feast. We're gonna literally have a feast in here this morning which I'm looking forward to courtesy of my. Trainer the man who was making me the mambo who is a huge fan of yours. And who my friend Alex who is not only is he in my physical trainer but he is also he's one of these guys he travels are learning competes in these barbecue competitions. Many heard you talking about barbecue and all quiet kinds of different things so he sent in this huge trade a platter of ribs and pulled pork. And as we speak it is being taken over to the history and get to cafeteria in search of an oven and that it can be heated up and hopefully soon we will be having. There's one thing I'm one record has Noah to get back on what a demand and Dimitri happens okay when we do tastes it Reeves and pool or yup they are bringing him before Arnold forks. Arnold net he's we'll pick in the pork pork and a real job with our fingers. We're putting our mouth if there's any excess salt we will leaked the excess salts with its own. And taste it that way there will be no nap since there will be no forks and demanding that will go on and vote go to camera on that. If there will be known champions of the B no forks there'll be no greedy participation by the very good at the whole other can they are better Tuesday today because we are. Jammed packed and of course it begins with the start of the NBA regular season tonight. And one of the games we would have circled on the calendar comes up immediately. But really got carrier ring and the Celtics visiting LeBron and the cavs now it's not a 100% certain that LeBron is gonna play he's got the ankle. JR Smith said yesterday oh yeah LeBron is going tie Lou was not quite as committal on that what is your guess on whether we see the bronze and a personal. How lucid ask him I thought there was got a funny number one I think the project's gonna play he realizes the enormity of this game greet you when you think about. And all season when always talked about were players seeding because they were healthy I think even though the bronze ankle is Beaumont that they wanna get off to a good start to need to be funny tonight. How are re urban is recede because LeBron and the way. They don't think it's gonna be near the way it was when the offers can make the Cleveland news Miami I don't either I think Harry is gonna give boo but in the end. On the reports of the Mets about things have been outstanding game especially. Since we think LeBron LeBron is six an all time against diary of course all those games and have been when LeBron was. I'm a great team in mind I'm Perry was on the terrible teams. In Cleveland I he's going to get booed loudly and vociferously. And justifiably. Right if this situation doesn't demand to Boeing and nothing short and I'll make it very clear my stance on this a set of a million times. Blue women to your lungs hurt I have zero issue with that. Leave his family out of it which is to say that if his family is at the game or whatever it is you leave them alone. You sit there and you voice your displeasure he wanted out. You have every right you're well within your right to sit there and and and boo as loudly as you want to. Don't make it personal don't get a horrible there should be obvious lines that should not be crossed that don't have to be delineated ahead of time. But if you want to boo the guy could he wanted out of your town and now he has taken. Some subtle and maybe not so subtle sharks at Cleveland in the in the aftermath I had zero issue do you think LeBron and carry amber at all no. Yeah I think date they. Well do they I think they adapt puppet don't show love does that make any chance. I think there's a little give and knuckle knuckle against us but I don't they go in for luck. I do. Because they going yes because I think you know the broad I think LeBron James is a guy who most of who put off BR the illicit. There are no bad feelings here this is not going to be. 880 harmonious return but I would I do wanna give officer you know what I appreciate the Q forty differently when he is when a hug is a two way street Abbott I realized. I don't want that to I think that will be. That would be the moment everybody in Washington beginning much like when Kobe's Jeffers got together Arianna watch and see if they embrace knuckles brawl look almost see that. All right what I got I got 321 on the knuckles eight to wanna have to talk a late game today the warriors host the rockets. I got numbers for you hear the Westgate Las Vegas super book as the warriors are quote the highest favorite we've ever had going into any season any team in any sport. Our basketball power index has them favored in all 82 of their games. And gives them a 50% chance. Of winning the titles so I guess I would ask you we had a commissioner on yesterday Anderson this has been my favorite sport my whole life art. But those are the warriors so good that it takes some of the fun out of it for him. No because I think you see got a lot of play the 82 games in much like we see and you know the sport greedy we don't know what do you who's it going to be like politics is one turned ankle. And we artists include the football and now Clinton is not Clinton's many more like a different team if somebody gets hurt for Golden State I think the bigger thing for me out of this game tonight I wanna see. What is James Harden. In the Chris Paul experimental clot. Because James Harden is used to playing without the basketball and we had a lot last year Chris Paul has held the ball. As a point guard so how second ago is hardly gonna give of the basketball and allow Chris Paul to run the office to meet that experience. Because if anybody is the challenge go to signal west we think it's Houston San Antonio won a rose to about Oklahoma City that he has a legitimate area of ourselves interesting. You know I I believe that the league is top heavy but it's not one heavy correct yes Golden State is this head and shoulders the best team. And barring injury I believe they went. But there is enough in the rest of these teams that have mounted a challenge. To keep it interesting I think. He thinks I'll try to Monday and our football goes to the titans they come from behind. They beat the colts they had lost eleven straight games to Indy Marcus Mario it'll play is. Yes the hamstring so he didn't have as usual mobility what did you see last night. I saw very mature markets burial because he played before balking at the pocket and this is the one thing I've been warning the seat. For the longest the only its army broke out at a party saluted so he proved last night to be the one thing that outing a lot of people embassy could stay in the pocket. And not run and win a football game he had out of almost a career how appropriate and yards last night are more concerned about the coats. What they that was on when Andrew Luck. I'm sick last night he probably won't play next week also. At some point now like now we're past the point if you put him on the pup list. He will be eligible to return right now so why did you put him on in the beginning I think the coats there's something going on in Indy with Andrew look shoulder. I don't believe we're getting the full story at that a lot of people are concerned about that. I will always felt tired and others seek Elliott situation animated by the NFL. Not a time when what they really matter good on the field stories. They got a lot off the surreal stories we got the NFL PA now seeking a temporary restraining order that would again postpone. Zeke Elliott's six game suspension what do you make of all this the twist in the turns bugger McFarland. I just won't finality you know we can talk about distractions and to me distractions or something it's overrated especially professionals. But the one thing that will cause it to become a distraction. Is the back and forth isn't when is an up and I saw find out if you're gonna take the suspect should take it let's move on because I think deck press Scott deserves to know what he has to do over the next six weeks. Oh. Baseball the NLCS moved to Chicago today the cubs down two zip. Posted Dodgers are one is practically a must win we all know. There's only been one team ever to come from three nothing down to win a postseason series cubbies come back home what do you make this thing burger in the cubs get back into the NLCS. A cable they're gonna happen you agree you think about this this court when he runs in the postseason. In seven games a boost when he runs in seven games none of you came the last game so really great you take what the last game they scored eleven runs and six games wears a cubs offense Chris Bryant. Rizzo where these guys that these guys have to step up and hit the baseball. Absolutely I did yeah. The Yankees and the Indians as New York plays its way back into the American League Championship Series on the balls on that thought and tell you that Mike and Mike are off the top is presented. By progressive majority content drive snapshot see a much you could save. Before switching to progressive visit progressive.com. Slash snapshot yankees get the win one they desperately needed their bats come alive. And while the story this morning will be about. Aaron judge hitting a home run in the two catches he made in the outfield in the Yankee offense. Finally getting it going cutting loose for eight runs. The biggest stories in this series really at this point if you look at it despite having. 82 games to one lead. The Astros have only scored five runs in three games against Yankee pitching and right now CC sabathia. CC sabathia is performance in this post season. Has been nothing short of ridiculously good at the age of 37 sabathia was more than good enough to win game two of this series against Cleveland. He was backpack. Vascular in the decisive game five and then last night he threw six shutout innings against Houston offense that we were saying. Was historically good through this regular season so how about the performance of the agents CC sabathia to keep the yankees' season alive. You agree we often talk about which would you rather have the great talent a great experience. And CC sabathia. He's nowhere near the pitcher that he was several years ago but what are years he's an experienced pitcher he understands the moment the artist is the one thing in baseball they every want. When I talk to him baseball discuss as a you know what. The reason game 161. In game 58 matters because the gas may go out there. There are able to treat the games same they don't raise the enormity of the games and you have to be a veteran player to understand. To do that in a post season a CC sabathia can do get last night really went out there. As a veteran player. And he pick a game like a very shooting two I didn't need to low and he was the spot along with his location I thought he from from from the standpoint of the moment not being too big being down haven't come out and get a win but he was outstanding last night. He was exactly what the Yankees needed it home for sabathia at the first scoreless outing of his post season career. At 37 he's the oldest Yankee pitcher was six scoreless innings. In the post season since Roger Clemens in game two of the 2000. World Series that was the performance. For him on the other side of the Yankee offence got going last night as well I tell you what they woke up in that series. But against Cleveland dated they were ever really sleep they got blown out in game one they had a bit ridiculous came to. That the Girardi gave the people talk about but they they certainly hit in that game. And then they took care business the rescuer with three straight wins. And I got held a two runs in Houston. By the combination of Michael and Verlander and that's the real problem they have is those guys are coming around about what was that song to become a rout them out and what you got which he talked Michael and Verlander coming around the mountain again there are gonna get have to find a way to get to at least one of those two guys but for last night. Aaron judge finally hit the ball he made two big plays in the field the Yankees got themselves some life. No doubt you if you're the Yankees and their offense OK you have to get somebody don't know where this Frazier wouldn't stood with the saints is. It was as good to see hear and judge you've been in a riff fix won't come out and hit the baseball and when he hits. When you don't want your stars that hit the baseball it's an infectious feeling because everybody in the club house starts the right okay now we can you go. They need a couple of guys not to get everybody to go but especially the meat at a lot company was good to see him home. A young player because often terribly young players struggle that instant take over. Out into the Theo last night and a couple of these principally to a really good and he hit the baseball. It's amazing how that stadium came alive and to me that was acute last night just the environment CC everything came together for the Yankees last. Amazing how good they are their ballpark also the Yankees were 51 and thirty. At home during the regular season they are built to play Yankee Stadium their for an all of the playoffs. Now at home and by the way fifteen of their 24 postseason runs at home. Have come by the home runs basically two thirds of their scoring 63% of the scoring. Comes by the home run so the that's that's the way they got to win these games and last night they were able to do I got out for here let's start. But Timmy courage and who was watching the swings of Aaron judge last night and wondering if judges coming out of his slump. I think the air and judge factors really important when he plays really well like he did tonight it's a home run to make two really good defense plays. I think they kind of rally around him a little bit and Scott. He's so big with that over the millions I'd like you have to be. A great athlete to make those two plays that he did. And he's a basketball player he's a football player and he's got baseball skills and you take the F what is schism. Needed to play those other sports and the skill required to play baseball. That's how he makes plays like that and comes out of slumps and maybe you know except maybe he's out of. It is phenomenal and fascinating I think that this series and really the American League season. Comes down to the two players who I think we'll finish 12 in the American League MVP voting and that is cultivate and judge. Who wins are they're all I think up to they would write MVP who wins this series remains to be seen of course. But I mean Al too vague could sit on my shoulders and assures his biggest just. Is Bob Bob it's hilarious to me yesterday buster role they only have jokingly said that he buster towers over all to make when they do interviews. And Aaron judge or buster needs like a step stool which is which is a fine and forget especially needs like a Warner latter. He's got to get all the way up there because judges. Just so big to that's the the enormous performance there yankees get the winner sort of feels they have like I'm rooting for the Yankees in the cubs you know what's interesting to amber. I'm gonna be urged to follow. The ratings and can handle maybe give me something on the ratings so far. But as I was watching the game on Saturday just felt myself noodling around an aggregate I don't know why did this but I went on. I grew gold metropolitan. Spent specific city populations Cochran. I'm in the United States there are four cities in the United States have a population of greater than two million people this is not equivalent to the eyes of the television market as television market sizes. Our I'm Dave they vary some time to specifically from. The city population. But there are four cities in the United States that have two million people or more in them and they happen to be the four teams that are left in the playoffs. It's New York is Los Angeles Chicago and Houston so. In in a sport that is becoming ever more significantly regional allies to. I think we're gonna have really good ratings for these playoffs and I'm looking forward to seeing. Where they look like in the number last night were you born this week in other news I got that are so I've who posed at home as I know what I got that you don't wanna do a figure out. Where the four largest cities in America because it occurred to me as I'm watching yankees Astros. I sit everybody knows that New York LA and Chicago are the three biggest cities in America and I said allowed the states I got the northwestern game. I got Steve Levy doing northwestern on why I can't on ESP and soup. And then I got the Yankees and Astros another channel and I and his you don't laugh and we keep that my hero previous channel player. But Menem's go back and forth between the two. And I said estates is usually the fourth biggest city in America or is it Philadelphia hours like night and I'm I'm a 100% sure. And I looked it up and sure enough there was. This is the way ever what I'm doing research. Other well barbecue board brokered what one way or another that's what I discovered and I'm so I'll be curious to see what the ratings are for this I think the going to be very very good. That was hit maker Jenny was at the Mike brought to you by Dave and busters watch the games and play the games. At two or football headquarters David busters we have plenty of football league at two day and plenty of baseball to get to today and of course the NBA season. Tips off tonight and I've got odd in hand from Las Vegas on who is going to be the NBA's most valuable player. This regular season. Burger if you had to right now throw a couple of bucks down to money that mattered to you on who you believe will be the NBA's MVP of this regular season who just throw it on Russell Westbrook. While that's organized by you guys. It doesn't mean he's wrong but I think he's not the favorite in Vegas doesn't necessarily mean the bodies brought to you happen to be wrong you're not going to win the EP. But that I'd I'd I think the pleasure was a tad. It was and it was I but he knows well look at I think right now Russell Westbrook. There was motivation wise. We all know what happened Canadian left our biggest motivation this year now you give Paula George you Carmelo Anthony. Russell Westbrook. Signed the extension he staying in Oklahoma City so now yes approved and only did he do Reitman McKinney convinced one of those guys to stay with him. Otherwise you get back to the same situation that he had with his Russell Westbrook and a banner misfit toys I think he's gonna come out holly motivate Gupta he's gonna play well. And he steal the strongest and started drink all the Jordan is going to be a great number two Carmelo if he can. Basically take his personality as a you know what I'm gonna be a good number three a popular player I think this team Oklahoma City could be outstanding Modesto one caddie. Can Carmelo humble himself so you know what. I'm not the number one and number two opportunist he he has to embrace the role of being number three if he can do that I think we have an outstanding chance to beat. Maybe two or three in the west. It's interesting because Carmelo. I yeah I agree with you that he is overall. The third best player on that team yes but he might be in certain situations they're number one scoring option. I Carmelo right remains an elite scorer assuming that. He is generally healthy we've seen his body deteriorating a little there over the years but the situation with the knicks has been so bad in his last year was. Was was. To use an overused term was kind of toxic. And Carmela was right in the center of it with Phil and everything else almost wanna throw last year out on the field doesn't count. Here Carmelo was healthy with a knee in the shoulder and everything else. There'll be nights. When he will be the number one scoring option so I think that's really what he want I think all of the third best player it's a wanted to get the ball and get to score from time to time I don't think he's gonna have any problem. I'll agree with you Russell Westbrook as the volume shooter so he has that have the ball he has to put up avoid a number shots to get his points. Paula source to me. I didn't take yup the browns he you've taken a low post he can run the break he can he's he's a great wind player. Melo from an iso standpoint 101 is still you can take into the port like the rocker partly due to the best basketball players there he's just a sport. He knows how to get buckets for you liked best being when people talk about Melo he's a guy can get your book at any time you won't only when it comes to. Running an office down the strip I think Westbrook is gonna have the ball he's going to be the facilitated as best as he has athletic as he does drive into the bucket. I think mellow may become a spot up shooter. A spot up three point shoot an update George will be the guy who takes people off the dribble so. You're right from a sport standpoint I just don't know Melo is gonna have the ball enough because of the volume of Russell Westbrook is gonna dictate him haven't bought him being a boy and shoot. I get my kids are all kinds of problems whether our pork today where back and better than ever Mike and Mike. Motorists here were presented by progressive insurance are guess on the shelf until. Performers by tomorrow in this hour those guests will be John gruden and Kirk herb street back to back. Gruden and Herbie every Wednesday in this hour here on Mike and Mike again the guy who trained me the man who made me to mambo. His name is Alex Shapiro is a great just. Op with a guy outrage you because he had credibility gap on city major mumble he lost credible to believe people look at you and I don't see mom a problem that people are looking nearly closely enough. But anyway so he with the the other thing that he does with his time. As he travels around and it competes in all these barbecue competitions and he heard you talking about barbecue users agree you gotta let me make them stop for border. So I brought this big tray in but it's cold and and the cafeteria because of health code regulations will not allow us put it in the oven. So he's saying we can put it in a microwave that can lose something it is he's so proud of this and I am I really liked. So we're trying to figure out a place that we can put this in an oven so someone named Brian Davis who has a you know. His of my his his his Twitter avatar as a Boston Red Sox logos so he's got to be a normal person. I hate to reach our lives seven minutes from ESPN feel free to spring buying used my habit so let that you guys we got to get someone. Who lives this to be someone who lives within five minutes if here that we can go warm this up on low heat for forty minutes. The problem with what we did today and try to go to Gaza and break we asked for from our permission yeah normally when you do some degree I like asking for forgiveness. Go and do it but we can't just storm we can't just sort of take over the kitchen you don't have to there's a pizza pub and a separate from the kitchen. And it it has a fire at all times so you walk in the air you slip the guy making peace with a demo you go to Debra is right. Dub ago is that tornado Alley a few days I was did concern you slip the pizza guy every second I was and it was a two dollar bill. Go ahead you slip the gaga. You slide sit real simple pork in the corner of the pizza oven nobody knows you never go to Q and because the pizza oven is separate from the kitchen. And it's my assistant against what you you you say I'm sorry you move on but guess what we have hot real import pork. Always always asked for forgiveness in not for permission. All right we'll see how that thing turns out anywhere we're still working on that. As we go to maker cheated here in this hour talk in baseball after the Yankees. I put an eight spot up on the board last night against the Astros who despite a 21 series lead actually scored five runs in the series. I as they said earlier the probably yankees have a I keep thinking of that song she'll be coming around the mountain when she comes. And Dallas Michaels coming back around that mountain Justin Verlander coming around that mountain as the Yankees can't figure out one of those guys at least one time they can't win this series. One way or another as we do our hash tag too far Tuesdays this morning. Chris reads too far Tuesday Aaron judge hit his last home run last night for this season. Hash tag too far Tuesday what do you think he's got two more games at home. I'm not at least I think he's gonna hit some more at they sometimes politics is one as as a jump shoot you he once shot you get that feeling. It's all about confidence and I think the young man Gus and confidence back last night up to confiscate from the field Plaistow. The plays he made to feel fuel we did the place I think he's gonna get another two. The Yankees are so built for that ballpark and a passionate too far Tuesday from Nicholas. Wade will come to the bronze assistants at least twice tonight in an altercation with ivory. Hashed it too far Tuesday. That way I what are the chances at slim and zero site members from with our ribs and accuse the right I look at it fair not slim is the same can't that a meeting had that today without a fork and without a napkin. Mike in my keep all that coming we're looking forward to reading it all morning long mr. straight talk brought to a straight talk wireless best phones. Best networks no contract for straight talk today I've two different soundbites from Mike McCarthy head coach of the Green Bay Packers. And I'm I'm one who I'm I'm willing to give pretty much anyone a pass on what is a terrible that people are terrible days. Like I think about this sometimes Lemony user ridiculous analogy but. That famous people. Will encounter. People everyday but it is walking around living their lives of people far more famous than I am more you are willing counter people every single day for just just make in the year. It was a really really famous person if you're a daisy daisy. And your walk down the street. And you encounter JC. Nine out of ten times he might be extraordinarily friendly to write him and he came to him and that's the picture and you might do it and annual take a picture and you'll be feeling good all that kind of stuff. And the tenth date may be having a really bad Ian beyoncé at an argument or Blue Ivy is not feeling well aware of the Toyota's legal didn't do what what other reason here what does doorway of whatever conceivable reason JC might have to have a bad day hate. I'm anybody having a bad day and some guy walks and he just doesn't feel like dealing. And he's a little bit standoffish or whatever that you don't have that I'm not suggesting he punches the guy in the face right it's just standoffish towards him. Well that guy goes in tells everyone he met I met. And so. I don't wanna judge Mike McCarthy. Based upon. His reaction to questions on the day after he just lost Aaron Rodgers for the season right that seems like an unfair day two overall judges deterioration. So what I saw everyone reacting the way they did. To his answer on the question about cabinet. I took that lasts. As. McCarthy reacting to Katherine as they took it to McCarthy having. A terrible day period is trying to figure out what am I gonna do it the rest of my season without the big guy that I built everything around it. And now. You're trying to drag me into a political conversation which is which is what this has become one way or not. Greed out Angela took our ticket is still further. I'll take it to the point where he came out the question and answer before it's at basically we're going with the guys that we have right so there's really no need for you'd asked me about Carla capita when I tell you that I feel very confident Brett Conley were going with him. We have a guy back in and welcome we're fine right now we're gonna play with the guys that aren't in in the role. So the fact it. He says that and and a guy comes right back and say well what about comic ethnic there's really no need to ask him about Colin cabinet when he already duke he's wrong with the guys and he has a best the way I take it it's a frustrating moment for a coach. It's already give you an answer. And because you have an agenda as they reported that you have to get a college Kapanen question in any time eighteen loses a quarterback. The coach is frustrated by that because he answered the questions that that's the way I took. This that it what I will do where I will disagree with you and and the guys in my ears shouting play this sound byte for people who haven't heard it too we should do that and then we'll comment on it. Further he was Mike McCarthy coach of the Packers yesterday. It's. Proven. I'll let them. Did you just listen I question I disaster. Okay I've got three years of us their bread only two years of us and don't tell and the quarterback room is exactly where needs are getting the tape. We're fortunate that record back. And Aaron Rodgers we're committed to the path the wrong we need to play better as a football to convert only with him we will restore this week can joke teller over tobacco. So everyone reacted so strongly yesterday I interpreted that as an anti Catholic thing. And I understand. Why people would think that if you don't hear the full context. But your point again this is also once again I'm my eight reaction to this is informed by the fact that here's a guy understandably. Having a terrible day. What could what there's nothing worse that can happen do you professionally speaking if you're Mike McCarthy era that Aaron Rodgers getting knocked out for the cigarette with a broken collarbone that's the worst thing that can happen. Should now you're asking this guy question in the one place though disagree with you is. It is not an inappropriate question. Yeah granted he just answered it. He just did to the question about his quarterback Aaron but every time there is an injury to a quarterback in the league it is appropriate to ask about Colin capita I think. Because you have eight. Legitimately qualified quarterback who doesn't have a job in March 1 has obviously want to want he's making it clear that he wants one he's now suing the league for collusion that he wants one. He's a thousand times more accomplished better I suppose remains to be seen but a thousand times more accomplished than the people you're talking about. Yes you've invested time in them but neither one of them was the starting quarterback in Super Bowl and multiple other playoff games and actually ran roughshod all over your team. The Green Bay Packers to a McCarthy was the coach of them so he's seen an up close and personal so I don't think it's an inappropriate question I do think you asked that question. What I'm saying is I would give McCarthy a pass on the snap fish answers just me talking on correct amount to argue you're wrong but that's that's what I think. The way he snapped at him give him a pass on that. Because I will interpret that more as man I'm having the worst freaky day and now you're trying to get me into this thing here. Which can only get me in trouble. I'm trying to tell you I just told you I got my quarterback Don this is what I'm going forward with what are you asking me about it it's not an inappropriate question but I understand his response. I agree yeah I'm gonna disagree with ethnic is in appropriate did the reporter asked about RG three because he's available. CIA I think there's an agenda with the reporters around MacArthur right now. Based on the climate based on all the political agendas that are being talked about any time as a quarterback. Injured each time as a quarterback played it isn't quite where it needs to be we bring up Colin company's name because it's a lightning rod gonna get my name as a reporter in life because I asked this question. It can I bring up RG three out. He's available but but that the reasons they're not in the league are totally different understandable both quarterbacks are available I understand that put RG three is not a lightning rod Armenia on and on a miniscule rental is a lightning rod. I am but because of people don't like him because they think idea. You know whatever it is true self centered but but that's neither here nor there. RG three is out of the league because the league has given up on him as a player. Colin Capra nick is out of the league for entirely other reasons the league hasn't given up on Colin can I hear you player he's out of the league because he is perceived as. The Genesis of you see the the kneeling during the national that he was the Genesis of it. And they don't want the quote unquote circus that will come with a agree circus comes with a RG three the league has just unanimously given up on RG three he's not suing them for collusion anymore than what Michael tells the story all the time. He didn't retire the league you know did that yesterday unanimously they didn't pollute. It's a general under fellow coach you don't want to adamant and that's how 99% of the people who play football their careers end that RG three's career has ended. College Japanese career has ended and an entirely there is never gonna play again he's definitely never gonna play again and that and it's certainly not because no one thinks he can play. Greets you won on the situation Mike McCarthy could have been having a bad day I don't doubt that he wants. But I also think that as a coach. You do some of these press conferences Monday after Monday Williams comedian talk about injured players this is obviously be a frustrating day for Mike McCarthy however the came out and he said it Brett Connolly joke on him mark guys so at that point in Palmer reporting the ruling re in his room before target the coast comes our decision on what. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen one of those two guys are gonna take the last shot would you in turn around and come back it's a what are by Craig Hodges we have ridiculous it's not gonna do that especially if Phil Jackson said the last shot is one of Michael or Scott. You come back and say what about. You caught right maybe now you take the cultural what is were dumping Mike McCarthy was very very frustrated that he came back. And brought the political element in it it only one thing to say okay are they any other quarterbacks out there that you would consider. That's a proper way to phrase but the fact that you came out of six. 81 about how accountants are now you're trying to bring the political element everything about mealy with the ball to my organization on the day where my quarterback is about the talk is about to do surgery. For his collarbone in the season is over ass whopping two minutes. Iowa now I don't think we're necessarily saying different things you're correct that's why he's reacting that way wrecked he's. If if you could put like a little caption up underneath that one of those word balloons like him and I've got a cartoon what he's really saying is do you think I don't have enough problems today. Aaron Rodgers having his collarbone operated on I don't need a response to the Colin Kapanen question right now trending all over the place but I will say. That this is not like Craig Hodges or Bill Cartwright or anybody out this cap critics situation is. If it isn't totally unprecedented it's close it is you know there's there's something totally different about what's gone wrong with this guy and especially on the same date that. It becomes public that he has sued the league for collusion. I understand the legitimacy of the question I don't think you are necessarily saying entirely different things I understand the legitimacy of the question it is different. It is different than saying. Well have you considered RG three. Or have you considered to. I'm I can't even think of another quarterback who's out there on the street doesn't have a job right or or have you are. Well. Someone just said in my ear Tebow. Tebow is another one that's an entirely different to two lead at least it was rookie dog bit the same guy who never listened to Brooks again is the same guy who is trying to trying to convince me that the golf event was in Malaysia not a koala important. Where Mike in my extra talk wireless nation like avatar has largest and most dependable. Forgy LTE networks I want more from McCarthy for you on an entirely different topic. I found this fascinating. Here's McCarthy talking about the play Anthony Barr is the founder and tailored. Who hit. Rogers and knocked him out for the season here's McCarthy's reaction to the plight. I do like it did I'd say so whatsoever slalom on a plane. He's out of pocket he's clearly. We expect figured hits home but good to dependent on the ground I kept looking up photos and you Iraq. And a distributor. And delusional loser Larry your players want something like that doesn't feel very good so. I don't like that. It is unnecessary legal were rolling when we're going to put them whatever who's told you know so remote and. All right so there's McCarthy saying he thought he didn't like they had quote unnecessary in my opinion burger McFarland your reaction. I think. Quote McCartney's is really talk about our great because quarterback ago hurt to me does not the wrong with that yet as a defensive player number one. It hit a ball carrier wide receiver or even a quarterback here again what exactly they wanted to hit him and into account levitating there. And just kind of flow over you know when you hit a guy you're going to fall on top of him honest and its quarterback got hurt broke his column ball but let's not beat. Reacting to the after an in inner Heinz ice and thought it was a dirty because when the quarterback got hit I don't think any one would have thought any different of that here at their Roger's gotten. If he stood up. And play the rest of the game nobody would've said anything it's not. Come back and say are yet it was a dirty I think that was of great he would regardless if that's Aaron Rodgers Teddy Bridgewater Tom Brady it doesn't matter. The the outcome of a degree should not determine. The intent of which the anonymous that it totally wrong but I got to give. You're a 100% right yet but that happens all the time. That that happens all the right right like when we look at suspensions and things Brett when a guy gets injured yes they take it more seriously at ages two and and sometimes they think they shouldn't sometimes they shouldn't put the reality is. That is the way I used to say all the time you're should just judge the act yet if you're just took the action it does make a difference what the result days. But then someone pointed out greeting you're an idiot. That that's not the way we do things right if you had someone with a car. And they're not seriously hurt that's one level of crime and the purse if the person dies it's a whole other level of crime right or anything else there's a salted and and that level of assault. Is determined in large part by how significant the injuries are on a person so I do understand that. Stephen A Smith on first take yesterday agreed that he thought I believe Max did as well he thought it was a dirty. If they bought didn't just hit Aaron Rodgers he drove him into the turf used at his way. To basically punctuated the blow. That he had distributed to Aaron Rodgers and obviously he explicit he's a defensive player and we understand ignorance here he's thinking about himself. Obviously we hit amber rides we are Aaron Rodgers we we have an opportunity to win the game. We get all that and I'm not accusing him of trying to not Aaron hammer rods out of the season I'm not gonna accuse any professional football player. Up intending to do that what a football player knocking us off quarterback out for the game certainly it's not the young on appeal will assume that that as a goal. So what do you think Stephen A visitors view as well I completely disagree Steve negative outlook as the organizer what exactly do you want to you to do. He's making a football play Aaron Rodgers is outside the pocket yes he's a quarterback but he has the potential to take and a football. Yes his weight landed on the quarterback Stephen A or would you liken it to like levitate don't output and this kind of hub. Of us is what it is definitely an itself all play in if you think this is a dirty play I got news for. They are dirty plays every Sunday Monday Thursday in football. I can you got to play Tom and Tom thug again agreed when nobody throws the flag. That's not a dirty play that's a football. And quarterback we'll tell you you'll be different if he picked Aaron Rodgers up in power prod him into the ground but he didn't do that that was not exist. Let me try to Rodham into the ground. It was let me hit this guy who's about to throw the football and if anyone out there that the best of the just watch football every time as a gain weight you'll see that what you propose a birdie. I do not bring here's what I will say I don't think it's a debatable the illegal play because they have made it illegal. To drive the guy into the ground and he does do it now I agree with the I don't think it's dirt because I don't think he doesn't purposely is running at full speed. He gets to Rodgers and it looks to me like two that I've watched highlighted so many times. It's I think that from the time Rodgers throws the ball to the time the target him it's two steps and he launches he he doesn't leave his feet but he's kind of launching. In to him to make the tackle. He does the land on them which in theory yeah. Well I mean. I don't know but the they've made a lot of rules are that it doesn't tell us they should have to. I guess the old are gonna make against this is. Adorable it was a dirty play definitely not. To libel which is to suggest a dirty plays to me one that is intentionally done to injures are correct I don't see any reason to say that. Why I think that it is a place that you could throw a flag on I do because of the rules. And for those who would say well that's ridiculous I get it but all I'll tell you ways. We got to find a way to protect these guys whatever it is and I know there Obama. Make no rules just because Aaron Rodgers got hurt that's the palm has reason to not do that especially if it's a football. But the game is so much better when the guys are playing at. From now on when how all of a sudden while these video. All of a sudden you go from when you look at over to have this big schedule in front mean I don't know I've asserted memorizing who's playing all the games coming weeks when you look over the games in front of you. When is that there's a good right everyone does what is your game this week there's a good what's in the 1 o'clock window when there's a good game to 4 o'clock window there's a good game. Every single week whoever green berets playing it's a good game. Every week. What he's quite so now which had ruled out of all because of ratings and so that's what sports do they all the rules because they're trying to make the game more appealing to. Stand making the game more appealing with timeouts and things like dead and seeing guys back to back but when you're trying to change the rules of how we played the game as a defensive play that. I. The defense a player as a receiver right now it's a penalty three ever reserve defensive player touches a diet and headed to penalty changed everything honestly it's reasonable we each night football. At its core is a physical sport the one thing you can not take out of football is the physical contact one man tries to inherently. Another Maine as hard as he team in which turned out we may as well stop football. Sure what you want and it's an aborted due to put it at its. Again I'm not saying I think he did it on purpose but I know here's what I would ask you. This Sunday. Lambeau Field. New Orleans greenback yes was that or was that not looking like you would be one of the most interesting and exciting football game to watch of the entire NFL season. A red hot Drew Brees going up against Aaron Rodgers yes because we now you are you excited to watch Drew Brees against Brett Huntley. 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For our feast so we'll see this thing guys are my Michael presented by progressive insurance. I guess appear on the shelf mental performance on and we do have enough for everybody including the Ryan Clark who has made his way into our studio this morning if you would like a little bit of this pulled pork and ribs Garcia got to cover this morning brought no equal port. I will eat them to Booker is that a lot of personal. People who even though god. Have you eaten with climate and morning hours that's not my usual 8 o'clock in the morning when nobody today at 8 o'clock but it is there needs resiliency Uga you eat it you don't stutter body. Either with a four and I told him dad asked the candidate you guys got these groups. Ebitda and that what you go to salt lick the use. Here's the problem is no problem of all people Ryan I'll be fabulous you look at all times I know how much care you'd take it peeking at your clothing and all of that. Now if you could this happen you think you should get you know you're gonna get some of it on that suit or I'm out of me dress like this normally pulled pork. On some weight they've picketed just I don't know if you go to my address slighted but if you break it out here. Hamas figure out a way to do agree aren't so I comedy a fork and a nice economic that whole I'm never gonna need a forward and it would have organized this guy did not work and you're not either by the way just a you know aren't that they are the foot is lick it off fingers and actually part of it reader's perception America that your assault do you not want to change that no he does not absolutely does that. At some point get to be comfortable with yourself and also worst part of borrow in Greenwood is green money is. His hands and things like hands sanitized. It's what he's not going away but yet he's not gonna want you're going to. Have to be content with who you are I think that's alive because you hardest trainer. Ain't you want home or how you look the best regarded trainer it's O the momma now OK but. That's chemicals and as the point of view saying you know what I'm going to be who I am no you're not because otherwise would about a trainer so you're not comfortable you wanna change perception. Deep down you also might look at you as a yeah. Like bigger. I think lots of people do that anyway. My my Bryant Park this year let's get out of business. Got a couple of things on the table work this morning the work our way ultimately to the Monday night game and everything else and clearly tons of baseball talk about the basketball season begins today. So we are jam packed we're starting with this Aron Rogers thing. Mike McCarthy suggested that he did not like they hit from Anthony Barr on. Rogers. There's been others who have suggested they think it is a dirty hit or perhaps at minimum illegal. Bogart I have a little bit of a disagreement on this I want prejudiced the jury about giving you our opinion. Ryan Clark what did you think this will all play and we're only may have because error Rodgers is hurt he's a huge player. So not only go Green Bay Packers blitz who the NFL. It's the latest you've seen me each and every weekend obviously. And honestly quarterbacks are hurt more hitting the grown that he are. From actual content from other players and NASA we saw. With air Rodgers if you're a defense that they were going to gain BC no way we're gonna make Arabs as uncomfortable. As. As as as as as that may be game as physical as we can possibly make it for him and as an entity bar was doing. The only reason we talk about his it is because this error Rogers and because air rises chose to use. If you make explosives when he was walking off the field but the heat as clean as part of the game right now in his part of what you have to do if your defense of. Later in the fail yeah and in that Ingrassia Garcia is dead. What would you have the do if you don't like that played football is it anything else as a defender when you in this situation are you going to hit a quarterback. You don't think about. Following on the ground you think about north from the hit this guy Malayan wherever he ends it invest only thing you think about I think people out there at this reception. That as you're making their run toward Iran argues that in your mind you say you know what I can drop into the ground and her. Iraq and about this this is what I will say about play defense of football I've never made a tablet thought to myself. Let me find out the best way to not heard this guy exactly. Ever life I've never gone out soon tackle weather's a run a bag quarterback the wide receiver and go oh my goodness. How can I hit him so it doesn't hurt him. All least they get a ball is finishing the play calling thing about this plane blew the whistle always thinking about his hate. How can I affect the gain the most on display and as an entity gore was doing. And no time do you make its happily say what's the best way to hurt his collarbone. First vote and it just more. From beyond that as most of species W motor and and secondly. When you slow Mo it when you watch eighteen million times as we all have you can say oh maybe he couldn't stop ordinance. Second step. Or maybe eating at the driving city grow. You know bugger happens so much faster than it on the field at any boards playing. Football is an unfortunate error rises are here I hated to. He's one of the best football players who have ever lived but it's part of the game. Mike Mike Ryan Clark if you were the straight talk popular straight talk world's best on best networks no contract. That let me ask the question is where I can understand what you're saying and I don't think it's a dirty hit either. Are there are ways and I Roma I can feel the smirk coming on from both the view in my merely asking the question. But let's face it a night to get one tweet out of out of the hundreds of tweet that I'm getting calling me soft and all the rest of that I did get one result I didn't want from a guy who said. Gritty for what it's worth the ticket prices for that game's on they went down a 150 dollars because all of a sudden. Drew Brees against Aaron Rodgers is one of the most exciting games of the season and with no disrespect to Brett Huntley and I wish him nothing but the best and this is his opportunity. And blocked the guys in football everyone's pointing out Tom Brady only got his chance to play tablets are the hotter we all understand. But at the same time there's like ten or twelve of these guys walking the face of planet earth. We're all excited to watch play is the right we could be doing good Booker make it fun to me would be put him in a red Jersey in whatever it is. Is there anything we could be doing to help keep them healthy that we aren't already people who vote the quarterbacks. It's. No. I mean this guy is here to watch yourself that yeah I know all got to current. Discussed it I had no idea how can I. Actually didn't know where you're going with that they were you finished I was disgusted defect I'm going to show right now noticed nothing else in this thing. They're going to look into that they're going to try to figure out a way. To not let them have it I also agree view. Now that Brett Hundley. God bless him he's my friend a brother the war kappa alpha side of attorney cooperate he sure would TV I was very excited about their new south of the new. Black. He says he goes well aaron's Aron and number. He Brett Favre. Right you don't daylight if you're Brett Favre will be super excited about a mile yeah Liz get it. If so that is part of it but there's also part of football and Mike McCarthy. Tried his best to talk about moviegoers enjoying his. Quarter break room saying he has the guy in Huntley in in Callahan to continue play he's a lot. Visiting the scene. Everybody's not irreplaceable. And though it does affect the game it's what makes the game so great. Because every Sunday you gotta get up the play you gotta have guys who prepared. Who worked behind guys who are going to be hall of famers but can come in and do the job as we now we're gonna see Brett Hundley can do the job. And if he's great if he's dead Prez got. If Heath. To solve Watson. We're we're really excited if he's Jerry gulf this year or Costa wits who you know now they were excited about it. And he's not those guys didn't realize just how important stores largely. What did you think of Mike McCarthy's reaction to the commentary and question after you are kind of laid out did the Haiti went too far absolutely hated. Absolutely I thought I was indignant. I thought that. He was of theme did that he was asked the question and I can't speak to what Mike McCarthy thinks because I'm not him I don't know him. Haven't asked him a question I haven't talked to him but I don't think he's the same way if somebody makes the same suggestion about. Tony Romo who's from that area and who have simply I think he was indignant. In. Disgusted because he was asked about Colin peppard. And that's and it's because the college campers race. Because of Colin cabernet. Stand per say but because he is who use it he's the lightning rod. For what he's the lightning rod for and I hated I'll be honest I have a a very bad taste in my mouth win Mike McCarthy is brought up from now it's so for ever because of the way he reacted to that question. Or his Rossiter accorsi Katrina had a different opinion I took it is if I came out in the question before. And I I was asked about my quarterback and I Sid Mark quarterback when we're good with Brett Connolly joke now we're due some letting you know right now. Everybody knew Rome were good. In the in the very next question. A reporter asked him about Colin cap ex to get as yet. Here's a coach who just laid out to you his plan his plan is to stick with the two guys behalf in the report was being a little selfish because any time as a quarterback situation any team. Injury not playing well we automatically go all the cog capita. Tony Romo not RG three but we go to and happening because of the divisive this that his name brains and everything that comes with it. By some organization and some media took it as a coach they got frustrated that this reporter was self is because he had it to the college Kapanen question you. And he didn't listen to the coast it says I'm good with my bugger happens all the time and go. Why don't you go to follow incidents foolishness of owed a coach Heath came out he stated and he said it straight no. The reason. The question was asked because is that good for in question. Because we don't know Brit partly eight. We don't know Callahan Joseph Callahan is a guide a Bordeaux from practice squad. We do know colleague averages we do know he's going to a Super Bowl we do know he's going to another eight in a C championship. We doodle he can run a ball we do know he had sixteen touchdowns to four interceptions. We know these things we know what he deserves to be quarterback it in his league we also noted now. Erin Rogers is out for an extended period of time. And though he ends of the questioning guess what your job is to answer stupid questions. The same way we were upset. Emit at Cam Newton for say you know what. It's funny to hear woman talking about routes. A yelled give maddening to me steal if I'm in my house or if I'm in my gym and a woman talks about routes it is funny for meeting here. I can see is fair but I can't say it. In a press conference I can't see it on TV your kid do this and I can't do that. So now we're gonna make excuses like oh he said he straight he did this he did that and now he's frustrated for as an equation it yields obvious answer the question. That's why you wanna might. That's why you'd head coach so no he didn't say it straight and he's a cold as frustrated because he was as a dumb question because the questioning Donald. Because Colin cabernet is better to know to do that seat in their room. Because probably cabernet can help. This team win. It's so when you're Mike McCarthy in your indignant if you're disrespectful. In the way you approach to a reporter we should talk about that. We shouldn't give him excuses because that's who we do if we'd like you. You won a Super Bowl you're respected person and we feel like you've had the Joker Ridder right way. Let's make excuses for you let's try to figure out why you felt the way you have if you're Cam Newton in you've been. Bad press conferences if you've been. Indignant sort of at a Super Bowl press conference after the game at the laws. They don't know we can't Figaro wider exit or why you behave do we you have minister bull crap. They don't you get appear as though are given their duties uses for it as his bull. I don't wanna give me an excuse what I'm saying use I understand the climate that we're in right now wind dead name is brought up every reporter I if you if you listen in pres Tom was pretty sure. That took Ghana has been asked about it also with what's going on in Indy I understand which is it. My biggest issue though he is. I think the the common Kapanen question was illogical when asked at some point I just don't think he was logical to ask right after the coach to come on it's that I agree we it was a good question should have been asked for pay. Understand what you say it. What about Colin cabinet but affected it was ass right. After he told you what his plans was I understand it's a good question and coaches are paid answered every question I thought it was just a little selfish that reported as it at that point. Or. I give the I don't know yet these selfish it is our job to ask question is we want answers to give things like so. We come out. Right we go we go to production meeting. And they give us an area they in the RC. This is what we gonna talk about where you stand or is there are seemed really wanna know about this is a lot of times I'm like man issue. Talk about their grip but I do. Because it's the story that matters. And win Jay Cutler got the job of Miami over forge a pellet guns MM always ask. Who should be quarterback of of the Miami Dolphins attaining a guy hurt passage a color physique colors were good and and Adam gays. It's the logical decision to coach Steele wants to play. In no no probably I don't feel like Colin cabernet is a question for every job. Because he doesn't it every job because he's not the person for every job. He could be the person for this job. M Mike McCarthy no Tuesday. And he was. He go to a certain way because he walked into the meeting already thing it's himself I'm gonna have to answer Colin cavern in question. Police say I'm a do all of this has failed us above my room so I do not have to answer a colleague heparin in question will guess what. You had to each should answer it. You were route. You rely out you were indignant. Because you felt disrespected in some way help we also do suspected or an MI. And today question if he's there has thrown. They play the answer to those TV or hearing this entire conversation and have not heard what it was specifically that McCarthy said too you're gonna hear the question. And as burger was saying he had just given a response about how he. Feels good about his quarterback rumored again with Brett Hundley and with the god elevator Carol and Joseph Callahan for the practice squad so now you'll hear the question you have McCarthy's response. To news. It's proven. I'll let them. It's just an estimate question I disaster. That's pretty OK I've got three years of us their bread only two years of us and don't tell him. Quarterback room is exactly where needs are pretty okay we're fortunate to have a great quarterback. And Aaron Rodgers we're committed to the path they're wrong we need to play better as a football team convert Hollywood have been restored this week joke teller over tobacco. So that's that was the response and it was you hear the tone they are. That Ryan you're referencing here here's here's my perspective on this I certainly do believe it is the right question to west there is this is this circumstance unlike any other. RG three is not in the league because the league has given up on RG three as a football player. Rightly or wrongly you might and you played themselves out you could say that he's that you might think that he could still like but clearly. The league has just decided 32 teams have ended rightly decided he can't play anymore. I'll I can't predict there's no there's no argument that he isn't one of he isn't better than a lot of the people who were still playing. As clearly obvious to understand why it is that he's not in the leak. If I going to give McCarthy a pass on his tone. It would be as I said earlier this morning here's a guy having a bad day right you've just lost her starting court regular season has just gone down the drain and everybody knows it. What I heard and has shown is him saying. Listen I'm having the worst that could possibly have and you're trying to get me to say something that you know was gonna get me in trouble. That's what I think you were saying should've done it no should respond that way no. Did I necessarily immediately take it to mean. His own. May I am I giving a pass maybe but the way I heard him talking it was not talking about can't predict as much as he was talking about. To the reporter you're trying to get me to say something. That is gonna get me in trouble when I already have my hands as full as they can possibly be with the fact that my entire team's season just went down the drain. That's what I thought I heard him Jeb agree. So here's the thing I was NFL live yesterday and Indy previously his press conference after the game. And he was you know we're gonna continue playing obviously earns agree player associate yesterday future. Right you're acting like there's no reason apparently there's a reason to panic this is one of the greatest quarterback to ever play the getting to meet the best. Physically that is ever plea. If you're at the like is just another guy going down so if you can't beat that come. In the post game press cover if you can beat the fact calm before answering that question. Vein you can be called one of the say hey look I just told you how we feel about a quarterback room we are going out anywhere. To find another quarterback we are culpable with the guys we hit because that is a narrative which on closer as a narrative had yesterday right. Right in a narrative you pray before that question. So yeah I understand he's had a bad day and I can't say if they ask about any other quarterback in the world. Next that he would not be hate that we packet you are right grainy Vick may be two way he answered the next question no matter what it. I don't believe it I'm opposite appear and give them a pass on the opposite of parents say I believe he would have answered it that way for any other quarterback. Which you are correct if we want to give him excuses we came. I'm not. It's an interesting question it now we're getting into an area that we'll never know the answer to her but if you took the word the main Colin Capra take out of that follow up question and made it Tony Romo. Which is something people were talking about our woody responded the same way that my my personal opinion the answer is no I don't think you would have responded to him I think he was responding. To the fact that he felt he would that someone was trying to draw him into a larger debate that he didn't want. That's the only is that question now that that's eluded you an absolute RC to your point. After the game there was doom questions whether that is going to be season ending surgery. So now he stepped to the Mike at the press conference he knows at that point is surgery required. Is season ending does that change the context at all and a disaster. Yeah. 00. And a broker. Has lit up because we error Rogers is getting carted. I don't care if he's getting carted off because his finger no broke is an issue. How is penny yesterday. There. That we talked about it the there's nobody I hate more in the world remind me again he did something to you on the island and isn't this degree of blogger in and it's not going into plain will be admissible in BP right I had to play picked out. I did everything. I was supposed to do greedy we supposed to be days and at in my wife is not supposed to have decried. After the game Muster is not both the little meat is a daddy what coverage is way off it results could stop their front I. Right up front here is greedy amid the play I made sick I take take take a bone goes zero. You noticed I didn't nobody cares about him he's a bootable ought to grades it is his grades and then number three and there are times that number three it or see me to the so I'll go a break. And it those that'll in my hand and drive we have a timeout error Rogers witnessed the belittle what their finger at them goes a lot. Hope they fall off about it but I'm hoping it don't. Why yeah. All Iraq opened it throws the football with three fingers the rest of his life because you don't deserve these two. Grainy because you don't understand the pain that these two fingers have put me through my whole life I have to a range but no. There Rogers I want to be all good in me throws people of people came eight. Yet number eighty stall any of the hit a beautiful wife would hit the ball let me forget. Sharon agree you know the redo that. Yeah and do that yeah I just follow through green is going to be a ribbon between your that nobody knows there's there's going to be a real bright red immature out of order but I found it is I think it is just to sort of leave it here. On this topic. It's a really interesting point that you make because as. I mean history is filled with quick coaches getting aggravated with questions and sometimes we love that right I mean sometimes we adore it. And you're right we do give people passes based upon the circumstances based upon who they are based upon. What their history has. Sometimes that's reasonable to other person has had nine years of doing things right well and I'm not saying there's a bad day even as I get it. But added it is an indication more than anything else. That's how this particular circumstance with Colin capita has created and everyone and I'm were having meetings in New York to talk about it today. Emotions that run the entire spectrum different than anything we've ever see absolutely this is something we've never seen before. Have food and and I so I totally agree with you I don't think he reacts that way the question is that I can't I don't know this for certain but I don't think he reacts that way if the question is about Tony Romo. Orbits about RG three orbits about Tim Tebow or I couldn't think of anybody else. Only run up Tebow earlier this morning anyway Ryan Clark this year. And as as incredibly nice as you look if you would like some of the ensemble are welcome I do let me mourn a barbecue oil rigs and it's on his way if we can get exiled to buy that that those we have. Our way out when he zero air combat you've got to get some about it no lights on Monday illicit. Coach Joseph who'd attacked. I want a process with one team one heart beat is what it says that back Tuesday voters sure anybody so Bluetooth is to grab both teams going up there knows there early Saturday it's what we do this to win another win the gold guys. Like yeah. We have found an oven. For our feast so we'll see this thing goes or Mike Michael presented by progressive insurance. I guess appear on the shell Pennzoil performance side and we do have enough for everybody including the Ryan Clark who has made his way into our studio this morning if you would like a little bit of this pulled pork and ribs RC I've got to cover this morn by I don't equal port. I will eat them at a Booker isn't it general I don't first of all. People who eat in the Angola. We'll eat yeah kinda in the morning hours that's not my usual 8 o'clock in the morning when nobody today at 8 o'clock but if he's there needs resiliency Uga you eat it yields. Federer body wanting to either with before and I told him that he had asked the candidate you guys got these groups. Ebitda and that what you do this also do little to lose. Here's the problem is no problem of all people right now beaten. Fabulous you look at all times. I know how much care if you take it picking out your clothing and all of that. Now of this happened you think music that you know you're gonna get some of it on that soon or I'm out of me dress like this normally pulled pork. On some weight if it'd just I don't know if news about go to another address slighted but if you break it out here Hamas figure out a way to do it greeting card. So I comedy a fork and a nice and Dominique that whole I'm never gonna eat afforded it would have organized as I did not work and you're not eat about widgets you know there aren't that they are the flood is lifted off fingers as part of it we there's reception and America that you assault do you not want to change that no he does not absolutely does not. At some point get to be comfortable with yourself and also worst part of borrow in Greenwood is green money this. His hands and things like hands sanitized. That's what he's not going away but yet he's not Bono when you're going to. To be content with who you are I think that's alive because you've hardest trainer. And you were culpable how you look they just regatta trainer that's all the momma now OK but. That's chemicals and as the point of view saying you know what I'm going to be who I am no you're not because otherwise would about a trainer so you're not comfortable you wanna change perceptions deep down you also might look at you as a yeah. We like to ago. I think lots of people do that any of my my Bryant Park this year let's get out of business. Got a couple of things on the table work this morning the work our way ultimately to the Monday night game and everything else and clearly tons of baseball talk about the basketball season begins today. So we are jam packed we're starting what does Aron Rogers thing. Mike McCarthy suggested that he did not like they hit from Anthony Barr on Rogers. There's been others who have suggested they think it is a dirty hit or perhaps at minimum illegal. Booker and I have a little bit of a disagreement on this I want prejudiced the jury about giving you our opinion Ryan Clark what did you think of it. In football player and we're only may have because Aaron Rodgers is hurt he's a huge player. So not only the Green Bay Packers bush Tuesday in FAO. It's at the latest she's seen me each and every week and obviously. And honestly quarterbacks or her more hitting the grown but he are. From actual content from other players and ask that we saw. With air Rodgers if you're a defensive player when you go into a game say no way we're gonna make air arrives as uncomfortable. As. As as as as as we make the game as physical as we can possibly make it for him and Anthony Barr was doing. The only reason we talk about this it is because as ever Rogers and because air rises chose to use. Buick actually that's when he was walking on the field. But the heat is clean is part of the game right now it is part of what you have to do they feared defensive player in the fail. Yeah and in that during the process Garcia is dead. What would you have the do if you don't like that played football is there anything else as a defender when you in this situation are you going to hit a quarterback. Don't think about. Falling on the ground to think about in order from the hip it's got a Malayan wherever aliens and that's the only thing you think about I think people out there at this reception. That as you're making their run toward Iran argues that your mind you say you know what I can drop into the ground and. You're right. About this this is what I will say oboe played defense of football I've never made a tablet thought to myself. Let me find out the best way to not hurt his guy attack. Ever life I've never gone up since it's apple Weathers right a bag quarterback wide receiver and go oh my goodness. How can I had him so it doesn't hurt him. All least they get a ball is finishing the play always think about this plane. Who was who always thinking about his hate how can I affect the game the most all in his play and as an entity bar was doing. And no time do you make its happily say we're the best way to hurt his collarbone. First vote we got a Smart. Columbia let us most of our species W motor and and secondly. When you slow Mo it. When you watch eighteen million times as we all have you can say oh may be could stopped ordinance. The second step. Or maybe he didn't the drums and grow. You no longer happens so much faster than it on the field at any boards playing. Football is an unfortunate error dessert yeah I hated to. He's one of the best football players who have ever lived but it's part of the game. Like a micron Clark is here with a straight talk but human history top wireless has phones vest networks no contracts. That let me ask the question is where can understand what you're saying. And I don't think it's a dirty hit either. Are there are ways and I I almost I can feel the smirk coming on from both the view I'm merely asking the question. But let's face it I'm nice to get one tweet out of out of the hundreds of tweets that I'm getting calling me soft and all the rest of that. I did get results I want from guys who said. Grief for what it's worth the ticket prices for that game's on they went down a 150 dollars because all of a sudden Drew Brees against Aaron Rodgers is one of the most exciting games of the season. And with no disrespect to Brett Huntley and I wish him nothing but the best and this is his opportunity. And blocked the guys in football everyone's pointing out Tom Brady only got a chance to play good blitzer otter we all understand. But at the same time there's like ten or twelve of these guys walking the face of planet earth. We're all excited to watch like is there right we could be doing a book or make him fight enemy would you put him in a red Jersey and whatever it is. Is there anything we could be doing to help keep them healthy that we aren't already heap who note the quarterbacks. It's. No. I mean you slide is sure to watch yourself there and get all got to current. Discussed. Yeah I can actually did. No way you're going with that they were you finished I was disgusted defect and I'm going to show. Right now noticed nothing else in this thing. They're going to look into that they're going to try to figure out a way to not let them have it I also agree if you. Now that Brett Hundley. God bless him he's my frat brother. The war camp of the cyber eternity incorporated shirt or a TV I was very excited about the new south it and to. Play. He says he goes well and there and in number Hebert far. Crack you know that I could if you're Brett Favre will be super excited about a mile yes Liz get it. It's so vet is part of it but there's also part of football and Mike McCarthy. Tried his best to talk a ball moviegoers enjoying his. Quarter break room saying he has the guy in Huntley in in Callahan now to continue play he's a lot. Visiting this thing everybody's not replaceable and though it does affect the game it's what makes the game so great. Because every Sunday you gotta get up there playing you've got to have guys who have prepared who were behind guys who are going to be hall of famers they can come in and do the job. And so now we're gonna see Britain leakage due to job. And if he's great. If he's dead Burress got if Heath. To solve Watson. We're we're really cited if he's Jerry golf this year are close or win it's very you know now they were excited about it. And he's not those guys to realize just how important stores are easily. What did you think of Mike McCarthy's reaction to the commentary that question after you are to kind of laid out did the Katie went too far absolutely hated. Absolutely at the auto was indignant. But that. He was of the indeed that he was asked the question and I can't speak to what Mike McCarthy thinks because I'm not him I don't know him. Haven't asked him a question I haven't talked to him but I don't think he's the same way if somebody makes the same suggestion about. Tony Romo who's from that area and who as a player I think he was indignant. In. Disgusted because he was asked about Colin peppard. And I'm not sane is because the college averaged race. Because of Colin cabernet. Stand per say but because he is who use it he's the lightning rod. For what he's the lightning rod for and I hated I'll be honest I have a a very bad taste in my mouth win Mike McCarthy is brought up from now it's so for ever because of the way he reacted to that question. Here's Rossiter Corson or green I had a different opinion I took it is if I came out in the question before and I I was asked about my quarterback and I Sid Mark quarterback whom we're good that we Brett Connolly joke now. Where do some letting you know right now everybody knew Rome were good in the in the very next question. A reporter asked him about Colin cap ex to get as yet. Here's a coach who just laid out to you his plan his plan is to stick with the two guys behalf and report it was big little selfish because any time as a quarterback situation we need team. Injury not playing well we automatically go to college capita. Tony Romo not RG three but we court and happening because of the divisive this that his name brains and everything that comes with it. But some organization in some media outlets took it as a coach that got frustrated that this reporter was selfish because he had to do the common Kapanen question you. If he didn't listen to the coast it says I'm good with mark bugger happens all the time I don't know. By those who go to fall incidents foolishness of older coach he came out he stated and he said history no. The reason. The question was asked because is that good for in question. Because we don't know Brit partly eight. We don't know Alex hey Joseph Callahan is a guide a Bordeaux from practice squad. We do know colleague averages we do know he's going to a Super Bowl we do know he's going to another eight NFC championship. We do know he can run a ball we do know he had sixty so as I was before and deceptions. We know these things we know what he deserves to be quarterback it in his league we also noted now. Aaron Rodgers is now for an extended period of time. And though he at the questioning guess what your job is to answer to beat questions. The same way we were upset. MA at Cam Newton for say you know what. It's funny to hear woman talking about routes. A yellow to give maddening to me steal if I'm in my house or if I'm in my gym and a woman talks about routes it is funny for meeting here. Are you seeing there but I can't say it. In a press conference I can't see it on TV or can't do this and I can't do that. So now we're gonna make excuses like oh he said he's straight he did this he did then and now he's frustrated for as an equation it yields obviously it's a question. That's why you wanna might. That's why you'd head coach so no unions that is straight and he's a coach as frustrated because he was ask a dumb question. Because the question a dull. Because Colin cabernet is better than no to do with that statement room. Because probably cabernet can help. This team win is so when you're Mike McCarthy injury dignity and a you're disrespectful. In the way you approach of a reporter we should talk about it. We shouldn't give him excuses because vessel we do if we like you. They you've won a Super Bowl a year respected person and we feel like you've handed her career the right way. Let's make excuses for you let's try to figure out why you felt the way you have if you're Cam Newton a you've been. Bad press conferences if you've been. Indignant sort of at a Super Bowl press conference after the game at the laws did Ono we can't Figaro wider exit or why you behave do we have met this bull crap. They don't you get up here and are given a duties uses for it as his bull. I don't wanna give me an excuse what I'm saying is I understand the climate that we're in right now wind that name is brought up every reporter I'd if you if you listening any pres comes I'm pretty sure. That took Ghana has been asked about it also with what's going on in Indy I understand which are sent. My biggest issue though is I think the the common Kapanen question was a logical one as at some point. I just don't think he was logical to ask right after the coach to come out and say I agree we it was a good question should have been asked for pay understand what you say. What about Colin cabinet but the fact that it was ass right. After he told you what his plans what I understand it's a good question and coaches are paid answered every question I thought it was just a little selfish that reported asking at that point in. Or. I give the I don't know yet to be selfish it is our job to ask question is will he. Ward answers to do things like so we come out. Right we go we go to production meeting. And they give a scenario basically RC. This is what we gonna talk about where do you stand on orders they are seemed really wanna know about this and it's a lot of times I'm like issue. Talk about their grip but I do because this story that matters. And win Jay Cutler got the job of Miami over Ford. Who should be quarterback of of the Miami Dolphins with ten hill got hurt passage a color crazy colors were good and and Adam gays. It's the logical decision to coach Steele wants to play. Ineligible probably I don't feel like Colin cabernet is a question for every job. Because he doesn't it every job because he's not the person for every job. He could be the person for this job. M Mike McCarthy knows it. And he was. He felt a certain way because he walked into the meeting. Already thinks himself. I'm gonna have to answer Colin Kapanen question police say I'm a do all of this as they all this about my room. So I do not have to answer a colleague heparin in question will guess what. You had to each should answer it. You were ruled. That you rely out you were indignant. Could you felt disrespected in some way pale we also disrespect you don't have Mike. S a today question. And he's data has thrown. They play the answer for those of you or hearing this entire conversation and have not heard what it was specifically that McCarthy said gee you're gonna hear the question. And has Berger was saying he had just given a response about how he. Feels good about his quarterback rumored again with Brett Hundley and with a guy the elevator governor Joseph Callahan for the practice squad so now you'll hear the question you have McCarthy's response. It's proven. All happened. Did you just listen I question by the Sasser. Just pretty to look at three years of us their bread only two years of us and don't tell him the quarterback room is exactly where and reasonably okay. We're fortunate that record back. And Aaron Rodgers were committed to the pilot the wrong we need to play better as a football team convert only with him we will restore this week is so telling Albert tobacco. So that's that was the response and it was you hear the tone there. That Ryan your reference in here here's here's my perspective on this I certainly do believe it is the right question to west there is this is the circumstance unlike any other. I'm RG three is not in the league because the league has given up on RG three as a football player rightly or wrongly you might and you played themselves out you could say that. He is I'm that you might think that he could still like but clearly. The league has just decided 32 teams have ended rightly decided he can't play anymore. I can't predict there's no there's no argument that he isn't 10 he isn't better than a lot of the people who were still playing. As clearly obvious to understand why it is that he's not in the league. Where if I were going to give McCarthy a pass on his tone. They would be as I said earlier this morning here's a guy having a bad day right you've just lost her starting court regular season has just gone down the drain and everybody knows it. What I heard and has shown is him saying. Listen I'm having the worst that could possibly have and you're trying to get me to say something that you know was gonna get me in trouble. That's what I think he was saying should have done it no should respond that way no. Did I necessarily immediately take it to mean. His own. May Emma giving a pass maybe but the way I heard him talking it was not talking about Catholic as much as he was talking about. To the reporter you're trying to get me to say something. That is gonna get me in trouble when I already have my hands as full as they can possibly be with the fact that my entire team's season just went down the drain that's what I thought I heard him ever agree. A social and here's the thing when I was in FL live yesterday and in need frequently his press conference after the game. And he was you know we're gonna continue playing obviously aaron's agree player associate yesterday future. Right you're acting like there's no reason apparently there's a reason to paint this as one of the greatest quarterback to ever play the getting to meet the best. Physically that is ever play. A year and the like is just another guy going down so if you can believe that come. In the post game press cover if you can beat is that calm before answering that question. Vein you can be called enough to say hey look I just told you how we feel about quarterback room we aren't going out anywhere. To find another quarterback we are culpable with the guys we hit because that is a narrative which on closer as a narrative play yesterday right right in a narrative you pray before that question. So yeah I understand he's had a bad day and I can't say if they ask about any other quarterback in the world. Nicks that he would not be hate that we packet you are right grainy then maybe two way he answered the next question no matter what and I don't believe that amount posted appeared and give him a pass on the opposite experiences I believe you have edited that way for any other quarterback. Which you are correct if we want to give him excuses we came I'm Nat. It's an interesting question at it now we're getting into an area that we'll never know the answer children but if you took the word the main Colin Capra to get out of that follow up question and made it Tony Romo. Which is something people were talking about art what do you responded the same way that my my personal opinion the answer is no I don't think it would respond to him I think he was responding. To the fact that he felt he was that someone was trying to draw him into a larger debate that he didn't want. That's the only is that question now that death salute you an absolute RC to your point. After the game there was two questions whether that is going to be season ending surgery. So now he stepped to the Mike at the press conference he knows at that point is surgery require its season in does that change the contents of. Yeah. Poker oh. Absolutely not broker has lit up because we Aaron Rodgers is getting carted. I don't care if he's getting carted off because his finger no broke is an issue. How is penny yesterday it was an eight year. Old at that we talked about it the there's nobody I hate more in the world remind me again he did something to you on the island and isn't this degree of blogger you and it's not going into plain old in the Super Bowl MVP right I had to play picked out. I did everything I was supposed to do greedy we supposed to be days and at in my wife is not supposed to have decried. After the game that must if not both of them would you meet as a daddy what coverages what you are putting a result could stop error that I. Right right here is draining a made the play I made sick I had to take a bone below zero. You covered is tied in nobody cares about him he's a bootable degree agent is his great gin and number three and they're times that number three it or seen me through the so I'll go a break. And it those that'll my hand so the next drive we have a timeout in Aaron Rodgers would be stupid little pointer finger at bill goes eight to lack. I hope they fall off about it and we don't. Why are all Iraq Obama throws the football with three fingers the rest of his life because you don't deserve these two grainy because you don't understand the pain that these two fingers have put me through my whole life I. I gonna have to ranged Lenovo. Error Rogers I want to be all good in me throws people of people came eight. In yet embraced all Indians hit a beautiful wife would hit the ball and meet for. Agent Erin agree you know the redo that. Yeah I want to do that and a good thing is follow through green is going to be a ribbon between there's that nobody knows there's there's going to be a real right reading material and a border but I found it is I think it is just to sort of leave it here. On this topic. It's really interesting point that you make because. I mean history is filled with quick coaches getting aggravated with questions and sometimes we love that right I mean sometimes we adore it. And you're right we do give people passes based upon the circumstances based upon who they are based upon. What their history is. Sometimes that's reasonable to other person has had nine years of doing things right well and I'm not saying there's a bad day even as I get it. But added it is an indication more than anything else. If this particular circumstance with Colin Kapanen has created and everyone and I'm were having meetings in New York to talk about it today. Emotions that run the entire spectrum different than anything we've ever see absolutely says something we've never seen before. Absolutely and and I so I totally hurt you I don't think he reacts that way the question is that I can I don't know this for certain. But I don't think he reacts that way the question is about Tony Romo orbits about RG three orbit about Tim Tebow or I couldn't think of anybody else. Only run up Tebow earlier this morning anyway Ryan Clark this year. And as as incredibly nice if you look if you would like some of the ensemble are welcome I do let me mortem barbecue on rigs and it's on his life if we can get exiled to might had to get that those we happy with a fork at night anyway delight to see was ours to a good to see you guys Ryan Clark with a disorder as a gray shirt. Our way out when he zero air combat you've got to do you talk about it no byes on Monday illicit. Cotto. Who'd attacked. I want to ask. One team one heart beat his but it says that back Tuesday of publisher did advise W Vista grab both teams thought that they know very early Saturday it's what we do that to win another one let's go guys. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to Geico. I've never felt more alive. 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He texted me I mean you're the man I can happily you actually used your hand that's how I know I've made it. Now I have washed up pretty significantly and that should afterward but during those eating process and and jacket from takes medical use and I thank you come we have not have fully and a properly introduced our new guest is were thrilled to be talking. With Stephen Jackson is in our studio is terrific job analyzing the NBA all over ESPN this is our first time. Getting a chance to meet in person so it's like to have you here they had to be as must say it's time he went to the first hour gravity Beck well then then that this is going to be so much more enjoyable for you and one of the many things that I can offer you some food futile and abroad embarked his nose Rivera got a lot of work to do so only Duma so that remarkably clean all right we got a million different things that we're doing here or not. Is that the NBA season kicks ultimately got the world's got the World Series yet but that. League championship series Rowling and all of the football and everything else but let's jump headlong into this NBA situation. And let's start with the biggest picture. I was looking over some of the early note this morning Las Vegas says that Golden State is the most prohibitive favorite. They've ever had in the pre season for any team in any sport in your mind. Barring a significant injury and that's always the out liar in any sport do you see any way anybody beats them this model oriented. And it. That's benefited as are the way they don't win it it's flat exactly is that passed on to battle bottles in at the engine of those guys stay healthy. You know the with the points they scored a pre season I was it would of Greece is so they're ready to take away him up on matches so. Is though is this guy the guys and authorities to document and beat them with them. Apropos that this congress is set them aside and let's look at the other teams both in the east and witness who do you like in the conference south and while level Casey in I think evoke a seek and go out there or not or bow office and to try to via a top ten defense team with the guys they have that America gore debate they would anybody. And the same thing Oakley and I think Cleveland is better than that appeared to have more professional. More guys that. The my business on a roll. Paying a guy guys that get the job done a better players around him on I think if they can also become a great be visiting they can they can be just as good as the ghost. I have to stop you there were you say Cleveland has more guys who are professionals. The obvious change they made was carrier ring departing so is that are you referring to are you taking is that that that's going to be interpreted as a shot a carrier or did you mean it that way. Not at our car was my guy everybody knows I'm a big fan Carrie I'm saying that to say they have more guys on the team that it attribute. In and have a lot of guys flashing there on the team that would Vick is but they really can contribute to our core is a great shooter. But it's a different sat in the fourth quarter with 36 mountain they have more guys that can make this sat I rely. I have more commas and Jim Gray and have more confidence Crowder you know have more confidence in those guys I just think they have a a better all around into a whale SATA carried my gap wade. Rose a better I was all these guys so how about carries and he goes back to Cleveland tonight and you'll hear it from the fans that's obviously doesn't want though. I mean I think that that's fine right at out of that I'm good at what you tell me because you're closer to the situation and I am I feel like. The LeBron return to Cleveland was almost an event unto itself that that was so Cingular because if his. Particular connection to that community and that there there really. Weird circumstances under which he left meaning the actual departure with a television special and everything else. All the others have seemed like just sort of normal stuff do the player's mind that I got a sense KD did mind it last year heard from Amy herder from his mommy's on put that. Cupcake at the line on the sneakers and everything else. I thought they did bother him a little bit do you think for the most part bothers players. Sometimes the main a lot of guys in it they invest Aladdin those cities you know deep we talk about big players points are marked as the sit in the bits. You know which are marketers at the city's promote so they have some love connects cities cities so something's will bother them because they feel like they gave they ought to the city blip. Would carry. I'm not worried because I thought like don't gonna say to him he's so young and talented northeast sentiment was his Jersey. He's not want them play well it'll ever brought an assassin is going to be different form but he still be had a dominant. What is he a cyber girl what exactly is hiring Irving if if you take all of the I don't wanna call LeBron James at a detriment. More or an impediment to his greatness because LeBron is is not only a great super you know an all time great player but he's so unselfish and but Tyree obviously wants the ball in his hands all the time and everything else what. Do you think is the ceiling from what can he be now this. As a lever I think if you can averaged thirty points with a guy like who brought him as an advantage as you can be by you know the guys now you're the guy and other guys I was feed off do you make of the guys that I'm excited to select a cemetery fan. It takes allow you to leave a guy like the Brazilians and going home. And one down on and on our commander for U I'm interested at that you put Cleveland condom on the pedestal in the east. When you carry on the Boston and they only have four players that Mateen from last year. And a lot of people think and they're the biggest challenges to the cavaliers how do you secure mr. and you like Jason Tait and reputed to have I want my eleven you know when metallic popular speaker and in August has in place you gotta respect. I let out a like the coach you know I like everything they have around artery he noted that the bar department of the OnStar commutes are. Court they were going to of course but I wanna see what Horford does I think he's gonna he's going to be big for them you know rose just come off the bids at that he's just like. He's just like it was with the got a little detour. Bradley Bradley and I'll say hi Greg rose just like Brad asleep infielder is it's a it's just what the role players to I think carrying Gordon who gorged ends up happening is gonna come off the bit to do a great arms well. Gore now where's looking at it Houston. James Harden is to have the ball and one reason why it was a pretty MVPs with the head the ball so much now you bring in Chris Paul. Who is a point guard by nature he needs the ball to run the office you see dead on and work. You know. Weapon was in a limited pre season I think for his part for the most part as a spoke with a comic plays we know we can score when he knee who work at things and this year he's not on averaged close it to but over this is not my ever since it's easier. Is all about him going to make plays and I think that responsible get more sizzler. Other exams that will be down or. The war that's a complicated one to me if you look at those two guys now history is filled with guys who have been willing to. Stubble made their games and and and that and that in the interest of being better. Playing with some of the most famous original example that every one point who has Walt Frazier Earl Monroe and they were rivals and Monroe what played with the ball many came in the figured out a way. To make it work and now we're seeing it it seems like pretty much every year. As the super teams come together and guys figure out their roles but Harden has made himself into what he is now by having the ball in his hands all the time. And so. How do you see that distribution working does all the guy who has to play with the ball in his hands and hardly guy who it feels like almost has to play with the ball in his hands so who has the ball. Well I think it works good I think what do it would have been. A travesty of Carmelo went there misty now you have Chris Barnes and does know he's estimates see ya is nobody doesn't make plays so I think we're just two guys would be and that ball down I think he can work as everybody else wants tickets shoe market allowed a layup nobody has laws that over the bar them and so I think it'll work. So who's a better team. Right now in your mind Oklahoma City are used and one OK when you go pars or it was a crime known maintain. We won the best big man that doesn't get in that created the damn island level he and so you're gonna sit at do you must be insinuating that Carmelo is going to be okay. Being a third best player not the best scoring option but the third best player entity while opening. When he got rated sonic aren't so those are in the government take its rate OKC at picking it. A man in his mind as as Smart as he has that as as has basketball cues he knows that this when his theories about it on its north. Our Russell was so I got to go out there and score more points get the ball that they beat affords is beat a storm roll in it he wants to win this Aaliyah approach. That that he feels to me like a guy now again Carmelo has been what he's dead he's he's go to the U walking into the hall for in the second he becomes eligible 100% deserves it. But he is the guy who the one thing left he can do was the one thing he seems a likely doing the most like. And make a ridiculous comparison here because he's a greater player historically has but it Miki could be Vinnie Johnson. He can beat a microwave because we the guys they are right right now it just give him the ball we need we need a stretch of four minutes here where he'll just carry our offense all by himself. And I still think that may be with the exception of Kevin Durant amateur there's another player in the legal do that better than Carmelo can do it. And you write and you write he's one of those guys that indeed if we do it but that's why have them high. This season because in the playoffs the game slows all the way down right. They have three guys that they can put on their blog post up or get a bucket just iso I love I love that that's why I want to just focus on defense because score points is not be a problem Steven Jackson is here is studio with a straight talk brought to read straight talk wireless postpones vest networks no contracts which means. The team that we left out of the conversation a Santonio Holmes and Gregg Popovich are those you haven't seen it is extraordinarily outspoken in a variety of different things that make a lot more news off the court and they're making on the court right now. But they bring back a guy who in my opinion is the second best player in the sport. And Kohl eyeliner and I don't know what would happen blaster in the playoffs that he didn't get hurt they would've won game one may Anwar maybe they wouldn't want any more games that series that will never know. But water damage it feels like all the off season attention that went to Houston with getting Paul and I went okay see with the the guys they brought in and San Antonio sort of forgotten what are they now this of this is every year this is they want. They wanna fly under the radar they don't wanna be an immediate in the media that don't wanna be talked about this will pop as he gets his players to get a prize a diamond in the rough he brings in Rudy Gay. Rest is calamity so he's ready to go in I got I got proper coach of the year again this year. Because I feel like when nobody's talking about and that's when he's at his business in his soldiers ready to go to war and it'll be ready what do you make of the LaMarcus already peaked states because he got a lot of a lot of flak over the last couple years not being that dominate guy that people thought it was going to be when he got to San Antonio up regulatory NT guy. Now you get the XT accidentally was 74 over the recent in my den where you make of the markers are at this point is our world you know. I'm glad they locked him in an update is good for your good they need him you know Tim Duncan speaks highly governor Tim Duncan doesn't and I respect the world allows them dug in but. I want him to care more I want I want him notes. They pay you are as much to learn how to go left. Like you know like is that you're too good to pay too much money for you to be in the NBA to not go that. You know he's this this has been the knock on his whole career everybody knows his moves he's not going to he's not adding anything to his game I think at this point at seventy game get better. I honestly don't think he cares enough I love the fact that they gave me extension. I love the fact he's in San Antonio because I think it been echoes and get the best out of this pop but he has to show. He's hungry ES the worker asked the to a game because I think his game hasn't gotten better since. Part of last before he has been assigned. Mike and I were talking basketball Stephen Jackson and our studio the NBA is back on ESPN radio tonight we have the warriors. Take on Chris Paul on the rockets for the coverage starting 9:30 eastern on most of these. ESPN radio stations so let me ask you about two teams. We're talking about the contenders now and I think we've pretty much is or anyone we've left out is to Washington belong in that conversation I think some. They belong in the discussion with a legitimate contenders and easier for the for the performance they put a blessed in the playoffs they only go get better at things now while what does Carter and his confidence coming in. I think it'll be best not offending gonna compete released does Toronto belong in the conversation. I like DeMar DeRozan I just don't like pitching. I don't. To me is exemptions in yeah I mean it's hard to win I know about it and point drop what the Golden State would go to state is terrific. Defensive team best threes nick and he rideau get away with being a jump shooting team I think until they struggle when I shot is off went into Rosa sat up it's probably give book. In value go to state now you got the possibly the best player in the world and the courage hardware and the bar KB he's the second that the and the nets in a says a lot yeah. Yeah look it it's one thing to me jump shooting team it's another thing when it's Kevin Durant staff curry Klay Thompson making the jump shot at camp at that makes that all of a sudden look a whole lot better OK so could go to the contenders. The two most compelling teams to me. In the league because I have no idea what to expect him to be a Minnesota and Philadelphia and let's start the timberwolves. With the acquisition of of of Butler from Chicago. Another year for Carl Anthony towns they give the money Andrei to a wigand's. And how they go what are they what are the timberwolves this year well. I'm excited to see I mean if you think about it without him Ebola. This is one it is that plagued overstate the toughest the last two years without an Ebola yet but they want not what the minute like thirty games writer right right right but I'm I'm just reading their performance on against the Tennessee Taylor. And and and Jimmy by the not think. Tim isn't Jimmy I think they know how to get to these yankees you know the pastor Jimmy plays with I think that's he has some Meehan and he plays in reprisal are. And fears on the court I think you didn't you witness to play like that. Towns are hasn't though it's. You know he's he's he's he's. He's farm but it didn't you witnessed that more pass in the same thing net the marks are just needs more fire in opposite Gump part of this photo some. These guys they they need indeed dead they can get that way about induced him to make some damage in the way it's what what does that mean what what they may play out to make the playoffs I don't I don't think top three top four team. But definitely far succeed part of how about the sixers with a huge money they get to indeed. There for my money if if you could promised me he was going to stay healthy and that's the biggest if maybe in our sport right now. I'd tell you I might take him over any of the other big guys the of the young big guys in the league right now but he's played 31 games in three years if he stays healthy what are the sixers this year. They're great I mean that they can get him out there and did in his LT you know him as elect an Atlanta brought out there are now pre season I love what they doing there you know. And I just I just trust anything declares laws are doing you know they've been a sports alone. They know what they did know what to do have a great coach Embraer brown has been in the San Antonio system. So it is it would works up they they get these young guys up in a barrel. And more employment. From people on the West Coast mons oboe but what do we expect from here on. Are both own and all the cool with that little balk well. For the most part the only thing allied about the whole situation. And I really don't have too much to say is I love the key is basketball IQ. You know. Every other system what they Kia you know everybody ever fathers who want the best vacated but it's a way to do it. And you can't tell the father how to do you know within the today but I loved it his best of our Q and I want him to do. Mike and Mike Stephen Jackson's in our studio here were presented by progressive insurance guests on the shelf until performance art here's a fun one for both of you guys yes. I'm letting you started team right now and given the option you can either started with. Carl Anthony towns. The Greek freak and Anthony Davis. Joseph well indeed. Parker steps forcing us which I take him. It's easy for me. Easy guarantees you're gonna take I I know he's gonna be made amends again art and if it basically all these guys who were seven feet tall and do ridiculous things aren't so it's Carl Anthony counts it's the Greek freak the Anthony Davis sister well impeded its Portuguese and one AD. I'm one degree creek because I think you're gonna and I can't act because voters love the great fault as easy it is right in if you look at AD. This in the same things about the Greek freak. They sit about eight people we say the body deemed a flight for the last couple years like when he's he been able to you know what. Give me two other guys around AD and he'll take you to a chance if I think the Greek freak were saying that about him he junkies common he's going to be I think he he's taken the step I feel more confident at this point. In the Greek free where he is his versatility than I do and AD. Yeah I what would win it would degree freaked I expect more of Katie type player of the shoot yet he definitely used up said that I think he's one of the guys that have been doing are on the can aid is the next Tim Duncan. You know can had to be glad to deliver their needs is way more Atlantic. You know we'll both these guys you know you can lose the weight what are they gonna beat me with the New Orleans with that. The experiment and they'll residents with. The reason we know they need a small forward. And what better small forward and and a guy who's the Mets scored in the that the victory is going to the music you know I asked that that I definitely did yeah. Our neighbor like polite. They then and there were at a Rondo hopefully get back here at the I think that was a big piece for them because I think with negated it respect him he's the guy can make plays and make these guys there. July the at the two I loved it I love demo I think as they have that have a big misses spot at the small force India tomorrow where they can shoot and and it means. I don't think they have them but what they built in there that they can get Rondo out that they've been the some nice judges marquis you still willing to defeat. That's that's what I asked that can do I can't I can't really do too much of off picker wrote that might but defendants Butler student at the next though that there are. At. That people like me geeks like me we're we're very upset last year about all the rest and a I don't know me too comedy too I get. I hated it would we had Adam silver on yesterday talking about it. He's talking about the changes they've made the scheduling no four games in five nights a lot fewer back to backs and all the rest that do you think you'll make an appreciable difference you think we'll see less of it. I think so you know home. I don't like it in our was one of those guys and don't want to come out again I don't want to play every every night we could you know of our was that the top in the minutes on top of the league in minutes so. I don't like it I think didn't they didn't pay more money to not must be more games the moment Itamar Morgan thanks so I don't agree with a buddy you know they definitely pass these guys in there and. How about the tanking that's the other thing that that Adam talked about this yesterday. It drives me crazy watching these teams they're doing everything they can't try and lose and this goes for all sports by the way and and and football does the same thing. I think that we need to sit back we need to rethink. The way we do this stuff because we incentivizing losing if you can't win a championship the best thing you can be as the worst team in the sport. I'm from New York from a jet fan my whole life and like all of jet fans and our sort of torn between is in this funded they're winning at all like other screwing themselves because they really needed to be O and sixteen this year. And get a quarterback you should never want to lose. And and so they're trying to make steps in that direction do you think that the little changes they've made to the draft will help they don't take effect for another two years. And could you think of anything else they could do because it drives me crazy it. I really can't speak everything. Whom I'm with you on that though I don't I don't think tank in on those and I mean to disrespect any candidates break new fans. Aid is spent in those other guys that worked on Soledad that come here to win. So I mean about who's at the top making it is is our. Yeah I'll say it about taking a boat we're seeing a real live case now. Of the Astros the Astros won the championship this year that's the case have a Mateen had just went to the bottom and came back up the draft and they can win a title and depending on what the 76 today did the same thing like the process is we're gonna tank right Ali's Japanese were going to be good so. If you are fanned out there which would you rather have a team this kind of so so or team a stinks and you know in 45 years ago to be really really. You're making my point form in the cubs within a perfect example of that as well win the championship last year by being as bad as they could. For as long as they could it's the system I don't blame the teams for doing it that's what I mean change the system. So you stop incentivizing losing right if if the best thing you can be is awful if you're a 100% right if the fans are screaming re all awful. Right I mean I don't let it it's okay I'll turn to go to the fans should be out there are blowing when you win. Right here here's a check whether an idea why you know you should be tried to win they should be making their incentive to be to win every single game. Like I. I have here's news for both of you guys are you two SEC centric Fella. Mr. Bolick an hour going over some things yesterday and we discovered that if you make a list of all the teams that control their own destiny. To make it into this year's college football playoff. One of them is unquestionably the University of Notre Dame Notre Dame if they win out with the schedule they have. They are going to be one of those fourteen is playing on New Year's Day Paul agree or disagree. I completely agree they've done better than expected but as you know green in this schedule is in front of them starting Saturday. Paul when you look at this this Saturday night especially with a Michigan Penn State. What you see in a game in Indy you'd think this game is going to be another referendum on Jim Harbaugh big game can be heated up. Well I don't think he can get it done and in Boehner what has he done this year are quite frankly what is he really done since he arrived in Ann Arbor to convince you or me or anyone else that he's going to get it done. I mean in state college I don't think you can much I don't think Penn State's. It is as a lead is maybe the ranking indicates that they are certainly better than than Michigan. Which just cannot generate any offense whatsoever and I look downright pathetic. The other day against Indiana which is a middling Big Ten team why do you have to go into overtime. To beat a team like Indiana and and what it when you do that and when you law when you lose to Michigan State. You your not a leader and you shouldn't even be in the same conversation with schools like Penn State and Alabama Georgia and TCU. Baum under is one new right now it seems to me that the two teams that are playing the best football if you drug the rankings and brought everything. The two best teams you see on tape right now. Tell me how the relationship between Nick Saban and Kirby Smart plays a role for a lot of people that don't know. Oddities that that is such an intriguing question to bugger. For for context are Kirby Smart is spent most of his career under Nick Saban they'll issue and and Alabama uses closest advisor. And you knew this was going to happen at some point that not long after Kerviel arrived in Athens. Things started happening like Herbie decided that he didn't care what Nick Saban thought he's going after the same players they. Then they had some epic battles over a couple of kids that one player what are. A defense of safety wanted to transfer. Two undergraduate transfer to from Alabama to. Georgia bugger and I would Saban tried to stop at the SEC intervened and let him go. And that grew and even that nastier. Debate fit or feud between the two Nick Saban Kirby Smart would both deny it but I'm telling you there's no law of love lost between those two. The people on the Alabama side feel like Kirby has gone in and and taken the inner sanctum. Information. Which is what would you expect him to do those are the same players everyone is going after bad. I am fascinated by that meeting just to listen to all the nice things they say about each other but I don't think they care for one another any longer at all. Mike and Mike and Paula and so let's play this thing out. They're in the same conference but they do not the aimed at you know group division of the conference and don't play each other the regular season. So there's a two part question do you expect them to meet unbeaten. In the SEC championship game and if they do how would you handicap the chance that that's a close game both of them want to make in the final four. Yeah I mean right now I do think that's going to happen they both have to deal with Auburn and I think there'll be Georgia's toughest game and I think it will be Alabama's toughest game because. Because of Auburn's defense it is very good. Right now I checked in with Danny Sheridan the other day he said if this game were held today not going to be there will if if if a war. Alabama would be a thirteen point favor I think it would be closer than that and I think that number is under a touchdown I think they both have a very good chance. Of making especially if Alabama wins in Georgia against the number one team in the country but on that subject. I don't think anyone in the country can match up to Alabama right now I think the debate about Clemson. Leading leading in the last weekend in Syracuse when it was it was it was a specious conversation and I've said so many times. Alabama is far and away the best team in the country. The only issue. That that they have is at quarterback in and whether jailer hurts can win a game with his arm that has yet it hasn't had to do that yet he hasn't even come close. And that could be a challenge down the road but that even Georgia cannot match up to Alabama right now. Paul find out whether it's brought you right Goodyear tires as hardworking as college football's most blimp where the athletes Goodyear officials sponsor of the college football playoff. Also with that being said about Alabama and just to kind of big tobacco which is stated your sold. On the development of jail and hurt and progress that he's made so far this season. Well we're I am a bit but we haven't seen him under the gun and I think that's that that's the X-Factor and I'm quite frankly. Isn't until late in the year I don't think that's going to be an issue. 23 weeks from now and how is your roles in. I'm sure people who sit around in the morning. Wearing LA issues what church are going to try to make a case screening that this is going to be a great game but in these two teams do not match up very well. And I think Alabama mobile will ease into the final game of the season against Auburn better but I do think tell be. An issue because where it's being played and and Kevin steele's defense as you well know border. Paul with the Syracuse is upset of clams in the November's has gotten a lot of marital love we also know there's a situation in Knoxville that you and I both believe it's not if bush win. Which stones this card is is there any. Thinking that maybe Dino babe Bruce could be a prospect of Khost area Knoxville. Yeah I mean I think he will be on all a lot of people's lips as far as the folks in Knoxville I mean that they are looking at a laundry list of candidates right now an and I think. After Saturday when when when Tennessee road rules and to Tuscaloosa and loses. By some historic proportions that that could be the and it's hard to predict the end for which Jones because it's already over. But but bay birds as you guys know yesterday haven't spoken to him and so many others he will get a big job a lot of names or are surfacing for this job I've heard. Dan Mullen whose name mentioned you know burger burgers we had this conversation and you could ask him tomorrow. There there's a segment of Tennessee fans who desperately want Jon Gruden he was in talent over the weekend before the Monday night game. And edit it I think you know he flirted with that job a couple of years ago his wife. Was a cheerleader there. I don't think that's going to happen but it but I think you'll see a lot of interesting names for that job and I think you'll see them very very quickly. Irony that think that John we'll take it I agree with you I've seen. I saw some of the speculation over the course of last weekend and just getting a job a little bit that I thought I could be totally wrong until like I've asked him this question. But I don't think he goes back as a college coach I just don't see him putting up with all of the restrictions. This is the guy wants to start coaching football 3:17 in the morning I don't see so mcsame and there's twenty hours a week you can do this and that's it. I I I find that very thing. Imagine him sitting in the living rooms having to eat. Dear Chile bugger. Oh no we're. Hey man. You know complaint Furman you with think.
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